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>> The Joe Rogan experience.
>> The Joe Rogan experience.
>> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY
>> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY
NIGHT. All day.
>> It's surreal being here.
>> It's surreal being here.
>> Is it?
>> Is it?
>> Yeah. I've been listening to the show
>> Yeah. I've been listening to the show
for years.
for years.
>> Well, I've been watching your show for
>> Well, I've been watching your show for
years. Yeah.
years. Yeah.
>> Are we rolling, Jamie? All right.
>> Are we rolling, Jamie? All right.
Beautiful. I love your [ __ ] show.
Beautiful. I love your [ __ ] show.
It's great.
It's great.
>> A thanks, man.
>> A thanks, man.
>> It's really awesome, man. Espec Well, I
>> It's really awesome, man. Espec Well, I
haven't watched Marshalls yet. Is it out
haven't watched Marshalls yet. Is it out
now?
>> It is.
>> It is.
>> When did it come out? Uh March 1st.
>> When did it come out? Uh March 1st.
Okay. So they just had the second
Okay. So they just had the second
episode air.
episode air.
>> I like to binge, man. I like to wait
>> I like to binge, man. I like to wait
until stay offline. I like to sit down
until stay offline. I like to sit down
and binge them
and binge them
>> for sure.
>> for sure.
>> Yeah. But Yellowstone's [ __ ] awesome.
>> Yeah. But Yellowstone's [ __ ] awesome.
It's such a great show. Did you have any
It's such a great show. Did you have any
idea it was going to be what it is?
idea it was going to be what it is?
>> Uh not. No, I don't think anybody did. I
>> Uh not. No, I don't think anybody did. I
thought it would find an audience for
thought it would find an audience for
sure. I mean, Taylor was really, you
sure. I mean, Taylor was really, you
know, hot at the time. He he he'd been
know, hot at the time. He he he'd been
nominated for Oscars and I was kind of
nominated for Oscars and I was kind of
like surprised he was even writing a
like surprised he was even writing a
television show. He was just like so hot
television show. He was just like so hot
in the the film business.
in the the film business.
>> How the [ __ ] does that guy even sleep?
>> How the [ __ ] does that guy even sleep?
>> I don't know, man.
>> I don't know, man.
>> Where does he have the time? Every time
>> Where does he have the time? Every time
I look in the news or there's a new show
I look in the news or there's a new show
that he's doing, a new thing he's doing
that he's doing, a new thing he's doing
is like, how are you doing all this?
is like, how are you doing all this?
>> It's impressive. You know, I feel like
>> It's impressive. You know, I feel like
there's a lot of people I've worked with
there's a lot of people I've worked with
where they do things that are
where they do things that are
impressive, but his is impossible,
impressive, but his is impossible,
>> right? You know, like someone would be
>> right? You know, like someone would be
like, "Could you direct a movie as good
like, "Could you direct a movie as good
as Unforgiven?" I'm like, "Maybe, maybe
as Unforgiven?" I'm like, "Maybe, maybe
if I tried real hard." But like, could
if I tried real hard." But like, could
you write 10 television shows
you write 10 television shows
single-handedly? No. No way. Not
single-handedly? No. No way. Not
possible. He directed Unforgiven.
possible. He directed Unforgiven.
>> No, I'm just saying like people that I
>> No, I'm just saying like people that I
look up to that I'm impressed by. It's
look up to that I'm impressed by. It's
like his is a different level, right?
like his is a different level, right?
His is like it's like impossible.
His is like it's like impossible.
>> Who did direct Unforgiven?
>> Who did direct Unforgiven?
>> Clinty SW.
>> Clinty SW.
>> That's the [ __ ] greatest western
>> That's the [ __ ] greatest western
movie of all time.
movie of all time.
>> It is. It's the best.
>> It is. It's the best.
>> Yeah.
>> It's like, you know what it was like to
>> It's like, you know what it was like to
me? It was like he was making up for all
me? It was like he was making up for all
the silly westerns and was like, "Let me
the silly westerns and was like, "Let me
show you what it was probably really
show you what it was probably really
like."
>> Yeah.
>> What was really like when a man was
>> What was really like when a man was
about to get shot? What was really like
about to get shot? What was really like
when a dude was a stone cold killer?
when a dude was a stone cold killer?
What was it really like? The hardships
What was it really like? The hardships
of living back then.
of living back then.
>> Yeah. And it's interesting, too, because
>> Yeah. And it's interesting, too, because
he starts out kind of a loser.
he starts out kind of a loser.
>> Yeah. those first, you know, like the
>> Yeah. those first, you know, like the
first three quarters of the movie, he's
first three quarters of the movie, he's
this sort of timid guy who's lost his
this sort of timid guy who's lost his
power, you know, and then he takes that
power, you know, and then he takes that
one sip of whiskey and it's all over for
one sip of whiskey and it's all over for
everybody else. It's a crazy premise.
everybody else. It's a crazy premise.
>> It's such a good movie, man. It's such a
>> It's such a good movie, man. It's such a
good [ __ ] movie, man. But yeah,
good [ __ ] movie, man. But yeah,
Taylor is a he's a real freak and
Taylor is a he's a real freak and
there's not a lot of humans like him and
there's not a lot of humans like him and
it's his background story is so
it's his background story is so
interesting, you know, like he was just
interesting, you know, like he was just
kind of scrambling around till he was
kind of scrambling around till he was
almost like 40. Yeah, it's like a real
almost like 40. Yeah, it's like a real
life Rocky story or something. Like rags
life Rocky story or something. Like rags
to riches, the whole the whole thing.
to riches, the whole the whole thing.
>> I know, man. It's just I just don't I
>> I know, man. It's just I just don't I
guess that's why he has so much ambition
guess that's why he has so much ambition
because he knows what it's like to be
because he knows what it's like to be
poor,
>> right?
>> You know, he knows what it's like to
>> You know, he knows what it's like to
like barely make it,
like barely make it,
>> right?
>> Then all of a sudden, he's got a kid on
>> Then all of a sudden, he's got a kid on
the way and he's like, "Oh [ __ ] I got
the way and he's like, "Oh [ __ ] I got
to buckle down
to buckle down
>> and really get moving." And he kept his
>> and really get moving." And he kept his
foot on the gas.
foot on the gas.
>> Absolutely. Do you guys keep in touch?
>> Absolutely. Do you guys keep in touch?
Yeah.
>> His buddies.
>> His buddies.
>> Yeah. Yeah. All the time.
>> Yeah. Yeah. All the time.
>> I love Taylor, man.
>> I love Taylor, man.
>> I love him. He's an awesome dude. I just
>> I love him. He's an awesome dude. I just
worry about him. Like, you know, you do
worry about him. Like, you know, you do
so much. Like, don't have a [ __ ]
so much. Like, don't have a [ __ ]
heart attack, man. Don't go crazy.
heart attack, man. Don't go crazy.
>> You know what's weird is he does he does
>> You know what's weird is he does he does
like have a good time, too. It's not
like have a good time, too. It's not
like he doesn't hang out with his family
like he doesn't hang out with his family
or friends or, you know, that's the the
or friends or, you know, that's the the
craziest thing to me is like the guy has
craziest thing to me is like the guy has
a really fun life and is able to do all
a really fun life and is able to do all
that. I guess like the moral of the
that. I guess like the moral of the
story is don't play golf. You know,
story is don't play golf. You know,
that'll take up all your time.
that'll take up all your time.
>> No [ __ ] man. Tell that to Jamie.
>> No [ __ ] man. Tell that to Jamie.
>> If I can get out once a week, it's
>> If I can get out once a week, it's
great.
>> Yeah.
>> He's an addict. Jamie's an addict. He's
>> He's an addict. Jamie's an addict. He's
got a simulator back there. He's always
got a simulator back there. He's always
whacking golf balls. Yeah. All my
whacking golf balls. Yeah. All my
friends are trying to get me to play.
friends are trying to get me to play.
I'm like, I'm not doing it, man. That's
I'm like, I'm not doing it, man. That's
a six-hour commitment. [ __ ] off.
a six-hour commitment. [ __ ] off.
>> No, man. The the the amount of time it
>> No, man. The the the amount of time it
takes to get good enough that it's not
takes to get good enough that it's not
the worst thing ever is too much time.
the worst thing ever is too much time.
>> Right. And my problem is I'm I'm an
>> Right. And my problem is I'm I'm an
addict. Like, when I start doing things,
addict. Like, when I start doing things,
I just start like, "Okay, I need to play
I just start like, "Okay, I need to play
in the PGA."
in the PGA."
I start I start going crazy. I'll start
I start I start going crazy. I'll start
getting lessons and [ __ ] that.
getting lessons and [ __ ] that.
>> Yeah, don't do it. We need your show,
>> Yeah, don't do it. We need your show,
man. We need you.
man. We need you.
>> It's Well, I'm never doing it.
>> It's Well, I'm never doing it.
>> We can do both.
>> We can do both.
>> No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
>> No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
>> Try it. We try it. Try it out.
>> Try it. We try it. Try it out.
>> No, I know. All my friends who play
>> No, I know. All my friends who play
[ __ ] love it. Ron White and Tony
[ __ ] love it. Ron White and Tony
Hinchcliff, they go out every day. It's
Hinchcliff, they go out every day. It's
like, it's too much, man. I can't do it.
like, it's too much, man. I can't do it.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's You can't play golf and do
>> Yeah. It's You can't play golf and do
what Taylor's doing. That's for damn
what Taylor's doing. That's for damn
sure.
>> No way. No.
>> No way. No.
>> Well, how is how the [ __ ] is Trump doing
>> Well, how is how the [ __ ] is Trump doing
it? Like he's in the middle of
it? Like he's in the middle of
everything. He's always playing golf.
everything. He's always playing golf.
>> But that's sort of the criticism, right?
>> But that's sort of the criticism, right?
Like he he's playing too much golf and
Like he he's playing too much golf and
not running the country enough.
not running the country enough.
>> But don't they say that about every
>> But don't they say that about every
president?
>> Yeah.
>> Like I think it's almost like a
>> Like I think it's almost like a
prerequisite to be president. You have
prerequisite to be president. You have
to play golf,
to play golf,
>> you know? Don't they all do it?
>> you know? Don't they all do it?
>> I guess so.
>> I guess so.
>> It's like one of those weird businessmen
>> It's like one of those weird businessmen
things. Like they make deals out there.
things. Like they make deals out there.
They have a couple of cocktails. They
They have a couple of cocktails. They
talk a little [ __ ]
talk a little [ __ ]
>> right?
>> Do a bump.
>> Do a bump.
>> Not my thing.
>> Not my thing.
>> Make some deals.
>> Make some deals.
>> I I just don't I don't know. something
>> I I just don't I don't know. something
about being on like a manicured lawn
about being on like a manicured lawn
that I don't I don't know. I'd rather be
that I don't I don't know. I'd rather be
out in the middle of nowhere.
out in the middle of nowhere.
>> I'm sure I'd love it. I'm sure. Which is
>> I'm sure I'd love it. I'm sure. Which is
why I don't do it.
why I don't do it.
>> But I play pool and I'm addicted to
>> But I play pool and I'm addicted to
pool. Like I play pool all the time.
pool. Like I play pool all the time.
It's it's a real problem. When I lived
It's it's a real problem. When I lived
in New York, I was playing like eight
in New York, I was playing like eight
hours a day.
hours a day.
>> Yeah.
>> I was playing in tournaments. I was
>> I was playing in tournaments. I was
traveling around. It was like
traveling around. It was like
>> I can't I can't get another thing like
>> I can't I can't get another thing like
that in my life.
that in my life.
>> Are you done playing pool?
>> Are you done playing pool?
>> No, I play all the time. Okay.
>> No, I play all the time. Okay.
>> Yeah. But you could play pool for like a
>> Yeah. But you could play pool for like a
couple hours and stop.
couple hours and stop.
>> Maybe I'll try that.
>> Maybe I'll try that.
>> Pool's fun.
>> Pool's fun.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Like real pool, like tournament
>> Yeah. Like real pool, like tournament
pool, you know, like competitive like
pool, you know, like competitive like
real tournament pool. It's legit. But
real tournament pool. It's legit. But
it's like it's another thing. It's It'll
it's like it's another thing. It's It'll
get in your blood and then you'll be
get in your blood and then you'll be
thinking about it all the time and
thinking about it all the time and
watching videos and taking lessons. And
watching videos and taking lessons. And
>> I'm ready for something though.
>> I'm ready for something though.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Not golf. Pool sounds like
>> Yeah. Not golf. Pool sounds like
>> Well, you have you have music and you
>> Well, you have you have music and you
have acting. Like you said, that's got
have acting. Like you said, that's got
to be kind of hard to manage.
to be kind of hard to manage.
>> Yeah, it's proving pretty difficult. And
>> Yeah, it's proving pretty difficult. And
I have an 18-month-old
I have an 18-month-old
>> Oh, that too.
>> Oh, that too.
>> Mix. Yeah.
>> Mix. Yeah.
>> So, no sleep.
>> So, no sleep.
>> Uh yeah, we're we're getting there. I I
>> Uh yeah, we're we're getting there. I I
you know, the the music thing is sort of
you know, the the music thing is sort of
it's kind of nice because there's not a
it's kind of nice because there's not a
lot of pressure on it. You know, for me,
lot of pressure on it. You know, for me,
I'm I have a day job. You know, I have
I'm I have a day job. You know, I have
this thing that supports my family and
this thing that supports my family and
the music I can do to like my passion
the music I can do to like my passion
level. uh you know and I and I wouldn't
level. uh you know and I and I wouldn't
do it to the point where I'm like away
do it to the point where I'm like away
from my family too much you know so I
from my family too much you know so I
can I like making the music touring is
can I like making the music touring is
kind of hard and it's and it's also new
kind of hard and it's and it's also new
for me so learning how to do that at 40
for me so learning how to do that at 40
was uh kind of interesting you know I
was uh kind of interesting you know I
feel like in my 20s that would have been
feel like in my 20s that would have been
the most fun ever
the most fun ever
>> sleeping on a bus with 12 dudes and just
>> sleeping on a bus with 12 dudes and just
going from city to city and you know
going from city to city and you know
drinking backstage and playing country
drinking backstage and playing country
music that would have been a blast but
music that would have been a blast but
I'm you know too old for to do that the
I'm you know too old for to do that the
right way.
right way.
>> Yeah. When you tour, do you go out or do
>> Yeah. When you tour, do you go out or do
you do like a weekend and then come
you do like a weekend and then come
back? Or do you
back? Or do you
>> When you're on a full-blown tour, the
>> When you're on a full-blown tour, the
the the way that it financially works
the the way that it financially works
the best is to just stay kind of going.
the best is to just stay kind of going.
So, you're doing like three shows like
So, you're doing like three shows like
Thursday, Friday, Saturday because
Thursday, Friday, Saturday because
you've got the bus rented, you've got
you've got the bus rented, you've got
all the equipment rented, you got the
all the equipment rented, you got the
guys, you know, on salary. So, you just
guys, you know, on salary. So, you just
have to keep going. It's actually really
have to keep going. It's actually really
hard to for it to pencil out when you're
hard to for it to pencil out when you're
just doing a show here and there,
just doing a show here and there,
>> right? Yeah, that's standup comedy so
>> right? Yeah, that's standup comedy so
much easier in that regard. I've only
much easier in that regard. I've only
done one standup comedy tour tour. I did